I'm in it to win it-in Hinzsight, is courting the disaffected Clintons the way to go?

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Lately, we're all supposed to be courting these supposed "moderate" Clinton voters, who are allegedly soooooo disgusted with Barry O that they are willing to do the unthinkable and instead of pulling the lever for their liberal candidate, they are going to go ahead and pull the lever for our liber...er the Republican. But in Hinzsight are these the people that we want on our side to win?

One of the common things that is being floated by the Clintons is that Hillary is the final victim of the Democratic Party gone to far to the left, a combination of sexism and the anti-war factions taking over the party and delivering the nomination to someone far left of sweet, centrist Hillary. On top of that, she is the Goldwater Girl victim, and the true victor for rural America, while Obama is the academic elite. If that's not the worse, she had regular folks voting for her, while Obama had this messianic movement behind him. To be quaint, Victoria, bull.

These are the Clintons that we are talking about at the end of the day people, the most ruthless politicians in the decade. The Clintons are the best and most efficient liars that we have seen, and they lies their way into the Oval Office the first time, but weren't good enough to lie their way back into the White House a second time. That is the true story of the facts: the fact remains that they almost pulled it off. With Senator Kennedy's run in the Senate ending tragically with brain cancer, Hillary has the position to ascend as the majority leader and lion in the Senate, where she will likely remain for life. Unless...

Unless we give in to the GOP's desire to continue to lurch left, with McCain willing to abandon the conservative base to appeal to these Clintonesque voters. Let it be said, that Obama's voters are not the only ones with the Messianic complex, believing that their candidate will save the country. The Clinton folks believe without a doubt, that their candidate is the savior who will return us to the glory days of the 90s where things were good and we had no problems. Of course that will be the way they and their liberal historians will tell the tale. But mark my words, for all the conservatives who believed the lies, Hillary Clinton is no Annie Oakley. In fact, she's probably just slightly to the political left of Huckabee.

Let's pause and remember that with the exception of two issues, Hillary and Barry voted together over 90 percent of the time! This is not Kerry and Zell Miller here, this is a few slight deviations, separating Clinton and Obama. And at the end of the day, let it be known these are not the big issues: they both support abortion in every step of the way; they both support and timetable and a retreat on the War on Terror. And they both talk a good game about cutting the tax cuts for the "rich", as well as their opposition to drilling, their places on the altar of Al Gore's church of Global Warming, their protectionist talk against free trade, as well as their bowing to the unions trade, education and everything in between. In short, they are the same liberal enemy, with one difference. We have seen how the Clintons operate in the Oval Office: ruthlessly implementing their liberal agenda without regards to how the country will survive after them.

Remember the politics of the 90s: while liberals remember them as the time where everyone was rich and happy, we remember the truth. The 90s were the time where the Clintons gutted our military to Jimmah Carter levels, leaving us open to the attacks of 9/11. We also proved ourselves to be the military paper tiger in Somalia, with Bill Clinton being too busy with private meetings with his various hussies to take advice from anyone but Okinawa Jack Murtha, and so the Democratic position of cut and run became the official national security position of the Democratic Party. I love Winnie the Pooh Bear too, but I don't want a Pooh Bear in charge of my national security. These are the people who let Osama Bin Laden walk because we had "nothing to charge him with", according to Slick Willie. And you want his wife in charge? You could live with a defeat in the hands of her? Oh my brothers, how quickly we forget the way we hated her when she was the frontrunner because of how she lied to cultivate this centrist image when we knew she was a far left liberal.

And so we get to the Hillary voters, who saw her ascension as the return to the glory days of the Clintons and the 90s, when Democrats were in power and could continue to run government and the people were happy! Oh the glory! To have won the Presidency with the Clintons, our lords and saviors! Imagine this though: we would be having this discussion had Clinton gotten nominated over Obama with Obama's supporters. We would be sitting here opening our hands and arms to Obama's supporters urging them to vote for McCain to show how angry they were with the Clintons. So imagine we beat McCain with no base and loads of Hillary supportes in 2008. We just simply make the case for her to come back even stronger in 2012, running almost unopposed, with Barry and his supporters backing her 100 percent as she has asked her supporters to do for him. She will make the case that she is the strongest, and McCain will move even further to the left to persuade the Hillpublicans not to leave. And who suffers through all of this?

Us, the base, the conservatives who know what Hillary and her minions are doing. Would it be worth it if we were running someone like Guiliani? Sure, because we know Rudy has a history of not giving a da*n about his political opponents and seeking to bury them in the political graveyard. It would be worth it for Fred, who would be more conservative in 4 years than McCain has been in his entire career in the Senate. But this is bend it like Beckham Johnny Mac, whose victory with the Hillpubs will signal a move further left and a complete abandonment of the conservative base. Conservatives are the ones that need to be shown the door, and the ascension of the moderates will win. Voters yes, but leaders never. It is time for us to fight back and win this thing. I would rather lose an election than a war. This is a war for the soul of the party, and one that if we lose, we may never get back again. Allow the Hillpubs, but do not let them lead the party, for they not us, will have the seat at the table for McCain, mark my words. We will fight them for the party just like we fight Chafee, for the Clintons have not changed. They just figured out how to lie even better than before. And this time it's about more than "that woman". It's about our country.

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David Hinz's picture

over at RS, if they come to us; with the issues on which they agree with Republicans it can be a good thing. It was the Reagan Democrats that come over from the Darkside that fueled the 1980s and right into the 1990s.

If we go to them and adopt THEIR issues, as did this present president -- we are screwed.

DocJ's picture

... and in particular his signature issues, which of those scenarios do you find more likely?

The answer to that question goes a long, long way toward explaining why I think President Maverick finishes the GOP by 2012. Think "The Governator" on a national scale.

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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.

Jaded's picture

where near the WH but and its a big but on our terms not theirs....I have been taken to task over at Redstate to be "nicer" to these Hillary Democrats and it pisses me off to no end....but come November they will be gone McCain will be in the WH and Obama will be a footnote in history....patience they tell me is a virtue....I am trying to be virtuous:-) We will see how long that last :-)

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David Hinz's picture

that if McCain wins, the HILLARY 2012 Presidential Campaign begins the next day -- with those same Hillary supporters railing against McCain for his incompetence, his age, his temper, his unwillingness to be bipartisan.

Watch, by 2009, McCain will be the worst president in the history of the Republic, presiding over the "worst economy in the last 50 years."

BlackRepub's picture

My main problem is that we are fighting to preserve something that will instantly fall apart. Not to mention that the HIlldog's supporters have just as uch of a messianic complex about her as Obamas supporters do about him. Maybe its the price of losing so often, you want saviors instead of politicians.

"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"-Barry Goldwater.