In which I'm reminded why RedState annoys me (Updated, with commentary).

By DocJ - Posted on March 12th, 2008

Tagged: TMR

Subtitle: Why I'm here to stay and won't be back at RS in any capacity in the near future... Well, here's the first update - I've already told not less than 3-people I will reconsider, so pfft! to my bravado, eh? Moving on...

I offer: Exhibit 482a-g8.c(b)

OK, first you have to sort through the assorted AntiRomney-bots and their various sockpuppets. But then you get to stumble upon this wonderful bon mot from someone who should probably know better...

Quote:

Good!
Keep it up. In fact, if he can spend the next four years acting like the conservative he claims to be, then I won't have as much opposition to his trying to make a comeback down the road.

Gee Jeff, can I play this game too? Let's see...

In fact, if John McCain can spend the next four years acting like a Republican (as in, not pushing amnesty for CrimAliens, not continuing to gut the 1st Amendment, not pushing his ludicrous cap-and-trade scheme, and not pushing his "Patients' Bill of Rights" - and that would be for starters) then I might even consider voting for his re-election four years from now.

Gosh, this sure is fun! I'll bet some of you could come up with such wit and wisdom on your own. Give it a try!

Look, I've never understood the visceral hatred hatred many at RedState had (and continue to have) for Mitt Romney and the abject worship of Senator Maverick (and Fred! before him). I continue to predict that John McCain will, as President, govern to the left of Mitt Romney when he was governor of the bluest state in the freaking Union. But no matter - Mitt has money and changed to the right side in some of his positions so I suppose that means he's a fake and a phony - whereas McPain tosses us under the bus to our faces and he's the next Reagan.

Bull-poop.

But don't tell that to the Jeff Emanuel's of the RedState community. Hey, it's their site. They can run it any way they want.

OK, I gotta jump in here... Lesson to me, don't blog angry. Deep breaths. Count to 10. Do it again. Repeat as necessary. This was a totally uncalled-for slap at Jeff and though he has not asked for an apology he is certainly owed one, so mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa! We now return to my ranting...

But I won't be back. In fact, I'm thinking of adding it to my "dark" list (with all the porn) should I feel weak and in need of a RedState fix. They won't miss me, I'm sure. And now I'm pretty darn sure I won't miss them, either.

Wow, that's pretty harsh too, isn't it. Well, suffices to say that I actually had to enable RS in my version of ProCon (yeah, I use Firefox on a PCLinuxOS-based workstation - and thus my geek bone-fides are confirmed) so I'm not about to "de-enable" RS now because I got a little ticked at the bots. See point about not blogging angry, above...

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Well, you know...

Submitted by Steven Foley on Wed, 2008-03-12 15:35.

...you have a home here!

I Love you, man!

Submitted by DocJ on Wed, 2008-03-12 16:00.

To which the only answer is...

You're not gettin' my Bud Light, Johnny!

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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.

Damn! n/t

Submitted by Steven Foley on Wed, 2008-03-12 16:17.

Don't do it!

Submitted by Neil Stevens on Wed, 2008-03-12 17:10.

Josh Treviño nearly drove me from RS because he was irritating the daylights out of me with his pro-draft articles. I perservered though. I urge you to do the same, and just avoid diaries/discussions that annoy you.
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If you're seeing shades of gray, it's because you're not looking close enough to see the black and white dots.

Heh, I've tangled with Josh more than once...

Submitted by DocJ on Wed, 2008-03-12 17:42.

... almost led to my getting tossed-off the site around Christmas time. Good times. Good times.

I'll take it under advisement, Neil - and thanks. I've lurked at RS after my Super-Duper Tuesday departure, but decided a while ago that most (if not all) of my blogging would be done here going forward. There's plenty of room for all of us, no reason to not "spread the wealth" - if what little I can do on the net can even remotely be called "wealth", that is.

Too many Bots (and yes, the RomBots were there early and often and probably caused a fair amount of trouble for Mitt with some people who cannot seem to let it go), and (I think) too many cooks (not KOOKS, but COOKS!). But again, it's their site - I've always been a guest (and happily so, by the way). I'm interested in growing TMR not so that it rivals RS (I don't think it can or is in our vision to so do) but actually enhances RightBlogistan as a whole - complimenting RS and a whole host of others.

Wow, this is a whole lot more than I thought I was going to say about any of this, but I certainly appreciate your and Adam's thoughts on the subject. No hard feelings, really.

Best -

Jon

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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.

Well, for what it's worth

Submitted by Crank on Wed, 2008-03-12 17:48.

I'll miss you at RS if you don't come back; I've valued your contributions there.

Good googa-mooga!

Submitted by DocJ on Wed, 2008-03-12 18:07.

Who knew I had such a fan club!

Thanks, Dan. Covered a ton of ground in the comments below. Hope you can find the time to make it over here now and again.

Best,

Jon

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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.

What about the RS sig?

Submitted by Jack Savage on Mon, 2008-05-05 18:39.

Why don't you use that one over here? I miss how much it irritated me.

Back to the subject - I feel his pain, and that is why I am now here. It sure was fun for a few years, though...

Hey Jack Savage...

Submitted by Steven Foley on Tue, 2008-05-06 06:07.

...sorry I've been away for a while and hadn't welcomed you here and said Hi!

Glad to have you!

Dittos of Foley, JS...

Submitted by DocJ on Tue, 2008-05-06 06:27.

... good to have you here.

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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.

Thanks guys

Submitted by Jack Savage on Wed, 2008-05-07 17:23.

It feels good to be here...

This sig is my email sig

Submitted by Neil Stevens on Wed, 2008-05-07 19:43.

The RS one is more specific to discussions I've had over there. Here, you won't see me stridently pushing for conservatives to be loyal party men because, well... I know the people here have heard the case, and there comes a time when saying "Goldwater and Reagan! Goldwater and Reagan!" just isn't going to work if you've done it enough times!
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If you're seeing shades of gray, it's because you're not looking close enough to see the black and white dots.

DocJ

Submitted by Adam C on Wed, 2008-03-12 17:18.

I hope you will come back, but I understand your frustration.

"Look, I've never understood the visceral hatred hatred many at RedState had (and continue to have) for Mitt Romney and the abject worship of Senator Maverick"

I do think it is important to note that Jeff was not a McCain supporter in the primary. And he was not happy with anyone in the field. He does not like Romney and he's vocal about that, but to insinuate it is because he loves McCain so much is misleading.

He doesn't like Romney because he doesn't like Romney. And he's not alone in that assessment. You may find it unfair or mean spirited, but there is no reason to blame Senator McCain.

As you are aware, I was an early and ardent support of Senator McCain. I also think Romney has been a very good Republican since Super Tuesday. He dropped out immediately and with honor. He has helped McCain since then. In many ways, he is acting as McCain did in 2000 after he lost.

I do wish he had not been so misleading in some of his ads and attacks on McCain. And if he hadn't been, I could be talked into the Romney as VP idea. But I think it's hard to go there after what happened in the primaries.

That being said, I've been pushing for a Romney as RNC Chair for a while. I think it plays to his strengths more than other possibilities (i.e. cabinet positions). Whatever he does, I hope he stays involved in Republican activities. And I hope he does stay solid with his new views on most issues.

Hey Adam...

Submitted by DocJ on Wed, 2008-03-12 17:36.

Thanks for the thoughtful reply, but you are mistaken about a couple of things.

...but to insinuate it is because he loves McCain so much is misleading.

I certainly did not mean to insinuate that JE was a McCainiac. I think he was pretty clear that he thought all of them stunk, but seemed to reserve his finest slime for Romney. I completely understand there are people who simply don't like Romney (believe me, I'm surrounded by them here in MA), but JE seems to be simply over the top and silly - it reflects poorly on him and (in my opinion) detracts greatly from the otherwise fine reporting he does.

... but there is no reason to blame Senator McCain.

And here is perhaps where I am not clear enough - I don't blame McCain one bit for any of this. My spat with McCain has nothing at all to do with Romney, in fact - the two are completely unrelated.

As you are aware, I was an early and ardent support of Senator McCain.

NO! YOU??? (I'm kidding now, of course - smile.) And FTR, I think Romney as McCain's Veep is a horrible idea. I simply do not see how it could possibly work or how any of them benefit from it. And FWIW, I think it's pretty hard to get there after the stunt McCain pulled in Florida with respect to Romney and Iraq - it was really the last straw for me but Mitt has far better breading and seems to have been able to call "Bye-gons". Seems to me he's been a far better loser than McCain (and a great many of his people) has been a winner.

...I've been pushing for a Romney as RNC Chair for a while.

Heh - great minds think alike, and apparently so do ours. I think that's a swell idea and was going to blog about that very thing.

Thanks again - and please don't be a stranger around these parts!

- Jon

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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.

Excuse the interruption but

Submitted by Steven Foley on Wed, 2008-03-12 17:39.

Hey there Adam C great to see you here and welcome!

Don't be a stranger...

Great to see some familiar faces over here

Submitted by Adam C on Wed, 2008-03-12 17:52.

Honestly, I don't get far past RS these days. Just don't feel I have the time. But I'll try not to be a stranger :)

I hear ya...

Submitted by Steven Foley on Wed, 2008-03-12 18:01.

...It's too bad it took something like this to pull you away.

With all due respect Adam

Submitted by David Hinz on Wed, 2008-03-19 17:39.

you have been the worst offender. Your, dare I say, bullheaded unwillingness to brook ANY dissent with the good Senator from Arizona, has been the most maddening aspect of RedState over the past weeks.

Sen McCain is our candidate, but he is far from the best candidate we could have fielded. He's what we've got!

I'll give Adam this

Submitted by Jack Savage on Mon, 2008-05-05 18:42.

His first few blogs about McCain were, IMO, fairly reasoned attempts to win undecideds over.

You know, DocJ, I never pegged you...

Submitted by Jeff Emanuel on Wed, 2008-03-12 17:46.

...for a "goodbye cruel world" type of community member. That being said, you're correct: I don't support Romney. I began the primary lukewarm toward him, and grew less fond of the candidate every day. In my view, his entire campaign was a lie to my face that I was expected to be dumb enough to accept unquestioningly. In him, as I've said several times before, I see nothing but a combination of overpowering ego and ambition, plus a belief that the electorate is mindless enough to buy whatever he has to say to fulfill that combination, regardless what he said before to a different audience.

You're right, now that Mr. Romney is out of the campaign, I should probably back off a bit. However, the idea that this former candidate is somehow the solution to McCain's "VP problem" is one which apparently requires that its adherents be reminded of why it is that Mr. Romney was unable to win the nomination for the presidency in the first place, despite raising the most money, spending a chunk of his own, and saying everything his audiences wanted to hear. The bottom line is, a person can -- and is welcome to -- change beliefs, and adopt more right-thinking values. However, a person should not be put anywhere near the position of leader of the conservative party until he has actually spent a little time showing that these are conservative bona fides, not just platitudes adopted to get what he wants from a particular audience or electorate.

Now, the quote above is absolutely correct. I stand 100% by this:

if he can spend the next four years acting like the conservative he claims to be, then I won't have as much opposition to his trying to make a comeback down the road.

In fact, I might even support him in a future bid for conservative leadership.

The analogy drawn in the post, though, is incorrect if only in one aspect: I am not, nor have I ever been, a die-hard Johnny-Mac-can-do-no-wrong McCain supporter. As I noted in the RS thread, through the last eight months or so of this primary election, I've been accused by supporters of every candidate of being a supporter of every other candidate (yes, even of Romney). The fact is, I remained purposefully uncommitted, with a commitment only to support the eventual GOP nominee (unless that person was RonPaul. Or Alan Keyes. Or Hugh Cort. But you know what I mean ;-)

Now, I am supporting McCain -- because he is the nominee, not out of some abstract, obtuse love affair with the man or his record. If you'll recall, I wrote scathingly of McCain, his backroom dealings, and his treatment of Republican colleagues at the time of the terrible immigration bill. I've never supported BCRA, and, though I don't have the problem with the Gang of 14 that many do, I've criticized far more over the months and years than I've praised with regard to McCain.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand. There are more important things to be said and done at this time -- with the nominating process all but over, the Democrats imploding, the GWOT raging on, the health care debate spiraling toward accepted emulation of failed socialist systems, and so many other things going on -- than fighting over a former candidate for office who (yes, I agree) is by all accounts currently conducting himself as a model Republican, former candidate, and supporter of victory this fall. I said during his farewell speech at CPAC that it was his best -- and one of the best overall -- speech and delivery I had seen in years. It is good to see that the Mr. Romney who did the right thing that day is apparently continuing to do the right thing as moving forward.

I still don't think that he should be one heartbeat away from the Presidency, simply because he hasn't had the time yet to show that his campaign-time conversion to conservatism was authentic. That being said, I stand by my quotation above -- that, should he continue on this path for the next four years, I may be able to support him in the future. I don't think he'll be the choice anyway; and, if he is, there's little that I can do about it.

So, acknowledging that the topic of Mr. Romney the candidate is one that uses time to discuss (or argue about) that would be better spent dealing with more current issues of far greater import, I'm willing to push myself back from that particular conversation, and do my best not to engage in such discussions in the near-term future (and, when I do, to engage with far greater temperance).

Is that an amenable compromise? I would hate to be the one who ran a longtime user such as yourself off of the RedState reservation, after all -- and there really are issues of greater import on which to spend our/my time and energy. At least, that's what I think. You?

Jeff

Not so much "Goodbye Cruel World," Jeff.

Submitted by DocJ on Wed, 2008-03-12 18:04.

First of all, thanks for the thoughtful reply. Seriously, I greatly admire your reporting and deeply appreciate you taking the time to swing by over here and chat. I've addressed some of this to Neil and Adam, but in light of your effort, I don't mind spending some precious bandwidth repeating some points briefly.

I didn't try to peg you as a McCainiac - sorry for the inference. I'm pretty well aware of your past writings about Johnny Mac.

I think Romney would also be a horrible Veep choice - ironically for many of the same reasons you think. I, like Adam, seem to think RNC Chair is a good idea. Thoughts?

My hiatus from RS blogging has as much to do with my desire to try to build TMR as anything else - and frankly some of the more, ahem, enthusiastic recent arrivals to RS simply drive me to the point that I'm unable to think straight. Really, it's better for all of us if there's a cooling-off period.

So as such it's not so much "goodbye cruel world" as "moving on to other pastures", so to speak - though I certainly cannot blame you for concluding otherwise. I'm not a big fan of such posts - which is precisely why I didn't post it at RS, they sort of smack as a cry for attention. It's even why I put this in the blogs and seriously hope it never hits the front page - it was more therapy for me than anything else.

Now, a tad longer on some points...

In my view, his entire campaign was a lie to my face...

You know, maybe it's because I'm "too close", but I really don't get this and perhaps I should stop trying to "get it" and accept the fact that there is/was/perhaps-ever-shall-be something about Romney, his style, his persona, whatever, that makes people think he's lying through his teeth at them. Believe me Jeff, you're hardly the first person who has said this to me, and you were far, far more polite in your delivery of this statement than I am used to.

Come now, you weren't going to support RuPaul?!?!?!?! For shame!! (snark off)

Net/net Jeff - you didn't run me out of RedState, and I am now quite sorry for setting you up as the fall guy for what has been a gradual but more-or-less steady departure for other venues. Look man, I love your work, and your compromise vis-a-vis Romney is certainly amenable. Like I said to Neil and Adam, I'll certainly reconsider - but count on me to be a serial lurker at RS for some time while I try to help build up this site - not as competition for RS - but to support the things we all believe in. Plenty of room in Right Blogistan for all of us.

Thanks again,

Jon

PS - don't be a stranger to these parts, the door is always open for our "Big Brothers" from RS!

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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.

Appreciate it, DocJ.

Submitted by Jeff Emanuel on Wed, 2008-03-12 18:32.

There's always more room in the Conservosphere. Just don't be a stranger at RS, and I'll do my best to keep out of the Romney conversations :-)

Thanks again, Jeff...

Submitted by DocJ on Wed, 2008-03-12 18:40.

... and I hope you caught the updates in the blog.

Best -

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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.

I did, DocJ, but....

Submitted by Jeff Emanuel on Wed, 2008-03-12 18:57.

....they weren't necessary (at least the ones directed my way weren't).

Your mom goes to college. <nt>

Submitted by Leon H Wolf on Wed, 2008-03-12 18:14.

Whoosh!

Submitted by DocJ on Wed, 2008-03-12 18:22.

Yep, that sailed about a half-mile over my head.

But thanks for stopping by - and great picture. Think I'll go make me a plate of 'em...

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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.

I have an explanation

Submitted by Leon H Wolf on Wed, 2008-03-12 18:39.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=your+mom+goes+to+college

Well, I still don't get it...

Submitted by DocJ on Wed, 2008-03-12 18:43.

... so I suppose I'll say "I just got served" and move on!

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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.

Oh, so is this supposed to be an update...

Submitted by DocJ on Wed, 2008-03-12 18:46.

... on the whole "Your Mother wears combat boots!" thing?

So I've just been insulted, in other words?

Sheesh, I still don't get it!

Perhaps I'm as lame as my teenage daughter says I am, eh?

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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.

You're not *going* to get it

Submitted by Leon H Wolf on Wed, 2008-03-12 18:49.

until you've seen Napoleon Dynamite. Until then, just understand that I saw everyone else stopping by and just had to toss something in, even if it was irrelevant and inappropriate.

OK, now I'm truly embarrassed...

Submitted by DocJ on Wed, 2008-03-12 18:53.

... because I have seen Napoleon Dynamite.

Damn, I am as lame as my teenage daughter thinks I am!

Don't be a stranger. And please extend an invite to Mrs. Nachos as well.

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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.

What up Leon?

Submitted by Steven Foley on Wed, 2008-03-12 18:24.

Oh and please relay a message to Mrs. Nachos that we hope you're all doing well and not to be strangers to these parts...

Recommended for the discussion (nt)

Submitted by Neil Stevens on Wed, 2008-03-12 18:57.

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If you're seeing shades of gray, it's because you're not looking close enough to see the black and white dots.

And Leon's comment (nt)

Submitted by Neil Stevens on Wed, 2008-03-12 18:57.

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If you're seeing shades of gray, it's because you're not looking close enough to see the black and white dots.

I miss you, docj

Submitted by c17wife on Sat, 2008-03-15 07:37.

And you know all too well why I almost left RS.
Some days I do wonder why I went back.
It is so much like crack that I just can't stay away.
I'll come visit you here sometimes. :>)
Tschuss!

Welcome to our little corner...

Submitted by Steven Foley on Sat, 2008-03-15 10:08.

...of the net c17wife

It's great to have you here!

You're always welcome here, c17wife.

Submitted by DocJ on Sat, 2008-03-15 10:49.

And thanks for the kind words. Best to you and yours.

- Jon

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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.

Hey stick around

Submitted by Joliphant on Sat, 2008-03-15 21:31.

The Anti Rudy Hysteria almost drove me away. Turned out for the best though. He is a fighter but had no idea how to run a national campaign. Who knows maybe senator from NJ or next governor of New York , either way its for the best.
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Veritas magna est et praevalet.

Ah, yes, the trash Rudy era.

Submitted by streetwise on Wed, 2008-03-19 09:13.

Sometimes the anti-Rudy rants were really over-the-top. The Mitt haters were almost as bad as the Mitt-bots. And some people are just not rational on the subject of John McCain.

That's life, I guess.

While I really enjoy RS, there is definitely something to be said for diversity on the right side of the blogosphere.

So long live TMR!

I'm brand new here from the site not to be mentioned...

Submitted by aceintx on Fri, 2008-05-09 21:50.

I just got tired of the group think over there and the threats to ban me if I didn't jump up and down in orgasmic ecstasy at the thought of John Sidney McCain being our next president and echo the Mods on every point!

I'll lurk over there...but doubt I'll post for a while!

CFR, Amnesty, Spending, Corruption,
Earmarks, Socialized Medicine:
”Your Silence Is Your Consent!”

I didn't realize I'd see so many RSers over here...

Submitted by aceintx on Fri, 2008-05-09 22:18.

Maybe I should have lurked a while before opening my mouth...but discression has never been a strong point for me

:>)

CFR, Amnesty, Spending, Corruption,
Earmarks, Socialized Medicine:
”Your Silence Is Your Consent!”

you have no idea....;0)

Submitted by Steven Foley on Fri, 2008-05-09 22:24.

stick around ...

What Steven said...

Submitted by DocJ on Sat, 2008-05-10 02:36.

Happy to have you here, aceintx. Don't be a silent stranger.

Cheers -

Doctor J

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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.

Thanks!

Submitted by aceintx on Mon, 2008-05-12 09:51.

I'm not so much anti McCain as I am being realistic and honest about his faults and the problems he is causing himself...I jujst can't abide the head in the sand mentality and censorship over there...I'll go back to posting over there eventually but I need a rest from the thuggery that passes as moderators!

CFR, Amnesty, Spending, Corruption,
Earmarks, Socialized Medicine Global Cap & Trade:
”Your Silence Is Your Consent!”

It's a testiment to David that so many RSers come to

Submitted by Jaded on Sat, 2008-05-10 03:59.

visit and end up staying and I suspect over time you will find many more!

Not a knock on Redstate...just an opportunity to engage those who are not happy with the R nominee and an outlet where that can be expressed without being BEAT UP!

Freedom of Religion not Freedom from Religion

Ditto your comments about David and add Steve

Submitted by aceintx on Mon, 2008-05-12 09:52.

CFR, Amnesty, Spending, Corruption,
Earmarks, Socialized Medicine Global Cap & Trade:
”Your Silence Is Your Consent!”

Agreed!

Submitted by Jaded on Mon, 2008-05-12 09:55.

Freedom of Religion not Freedom from Religion

Howdy y'all-I too have come to the dark side

Submitted by BlackRepub on Mon, 2008-05-12 11:41.

Today's news on cap and trade of our lovely nominee and combined with the news that Huckabee is at the top of McCain's list officially did it for me. I am at the point where I am not going to vote or be happy with McCain, and I am probably going to have to hit him as regularly as I hit the other high profile Democrats in office. Good to see this blog growing with so many of my favorite RedStaters hanging out here. It's my first time here, but it won't be the last.

End the NewTone. Punch the hippies.

Welcome man

Submitted by simpson316 on Mon, 2008-05-12 11:48.

Good to see you are willing to take the gloves off.

Fighting for conservatism one day at a time.

Was that an intentional play on words, BR?

Submitted by DocJ on Mon, 2008-05-12 11:50.

Well hey-howdy! Happy to have you here in our little suburb of Right Blogistan. Feel free to get comfortable, grab a beverage, and have some fun!

Cheers -

Doctor J

PS - I took the liberty of editing your comment. The default input format for comments/blogs here at TMR is BBCode. If you want to use HTML that's perfectly fine - click on "Input format" under the "Comment:" text-entry field, select "Full HTML", and then HTML to your heart's content!

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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.

Hey Doc-I think I got it right this time

Submitted by BlackRepub on Mon, 2008-05-12 12:00.

Let me just give this old one a test now and I think I could probably fit my new tag in with that idea. Good to be here-I feel like I'll be letting off a lot of steam up until November.

End the NewTone. Punch the hippies.

BR...is that you and you hid?

Submitted by aceintx on Tue, 2008-05-13 09:51.

Not a bad lookin bunch man!

CFR, Amnesty, Spending, Corruption,
Earmarks, Socialized Medicine, Global Cap & Trade:
”Your Silence Is Your Consent!”

AHHH..you and your Kid I mean

Submitted by aceintx on Tue, 2008-05-13 09:51.

CFR, Amnesty, Spending, Corruption,
Earmarks, Socialized Medicine, Global Cap & Trade:
”Your Silence Is Your Consent!”

Yup-thats me and my boy

Submitted by BlackRepub on Tue, 2008-05-13 10:49.

One of us is cuter though :-0)

End the NewTone. Punch the hippies.

Yeah...I think your son's cute too

Submitted by aceintx on Tue, 2008-05-13 11:11.

Got his looks from his Mom huh?

LOL

CFR, Amnesty, Spending, Corruption,
Earmarks, Socialized Medicine, Global Cap & Trade:
”Your Silence Is Your Consent!”

Haha-that's what I say too ace

Submitted by BlackRepub on Tue, 2008-05-13 12:05.

But of course, I'm going to be married next week, so I have to say these sorts of things. That whole pick your battles thing and she's always right, heh :-)

End the NewTone. Punch the hippies.

Ahhh....you learn well grasshopper

Submitted by aceintx on Tue, 2008-05-13 13:59.

Ahhh....you learn well grasshopper

The four most important words in a marriage..."You're absolutely right dear"!

CFR, Amnesty, Spending, Corruption,
Earmarks, Socialized Medicine, Global Cap & Trade:
”Your Silence Is Your Consent!”

I thought they were

Submitted by Joliphant on Tue, 2008-05-13 14:25.

No you don't look fat
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Magna est veritas, et praevalet.

Well, that's a crucial one, but for my money, being

Submitted by janis on Tue, 2008-05-13 17:31.

able to say "I'm sorry" is in the top three. My husband took 24 years to apologize for something, and it would have meant a lot more if he had been able to do it much, much sooner.

Can that be set as the default?

Submitted by Night Twister on Mon, 2008-05-12 12:50.

I've been meaning to ask...

"After two years in Washington, I often long for the realism and sincerity of Hollywood." -Fred Dalton Thompson

Dunno.

Submitted by DocJ on Mon, 2008-05-12 14:39.

I just learned BBCode rather than try to fight with TMR's posting - once you learn it the code is pretty simple to use.

Neil is the dude to ask - but he's living over at the other place these days. Doesn't slum around with us very much anymore!

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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.

Eh, he's at the other, other place

Submitted by simpson316 on Mon, 2008-05-12 17:18.

He's working hard on getting 3.0 out.

Fighting for conservatism one day at a time.

There is much to be said for this place

Submitted by Joliphant on Mon, 2008-05-12 18:40.

I have no idea what is going on with the Redstates but their freezes are becoming intolerable. I'd be willing to wager that the site problems are its greatest barrier to growth.
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Magna est veritas, et praevalet.

I think a lot of that Joli

Submitted by simpson316 on Mon, 2008-05-12 20:42.

is that they have been working on 3.0 at the neglect of the current site. I'd be willing to be that there are quite a few updates to the old site that haven't been done that are causing major problems. Oh well, 3.0 is set to launch in about a week and a half.

Fighting for conservatism one day at a time.

The site that should not be mentioned....

Submitted by aceintx on Tue, 2008-05-13 09:53.

The site not to be mentioned.....TSNTBM

CFR, Amnesty, Spending, Corruption,
Earmarks, Socialized Medicine, Global Cap & Trade:
”Your Silence Is Your Consent!”

Now ace...

Submitted by DocJ on Tue, 2008-05-13 10:10.

... let us not go all Ronulan on RedState. I like alot of those guys a great deal and I think they do fine work. I (and a few others, evidently) just cannot get on board with the whole Rah-Rah Get On The JMac Train thing they have going on over there.

It's their mission, and I don't begrudge them for it - I'm just not willing to play along.

Cool?

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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.

Got ya...I'm thinking more in terms of not bringing

Submitted by aceintx on Tue, 2008-05-13 10:45.

Got ya...I'm thinking more in terms of not bringing our disaffection with RS at the moment over here than trying to be disrespectful. I'm not planning on shunning RS permanently either...I'm just not willing to pick up the Johnny Mac pom poms as I assume you are not.

CFR, Amnesty, Spending, Corruption,
Earmarks, Socialized Medicine, Global Cap & Trade:
”Your Silence Is Your Consent!”

We're cool, ace.

Submitted by DocJ on Tue, 2008-05-13 13:12.

And I certainly wasn't meaning what I wrote as some sort of "smack down" or anything. There's plenty of room in Right Blogistan for us and RS to thrive - for us, it's all about bringing to the table content and opinion that you're not likely to find elsewhere. And the more we have here contributing - and debating - the better for that purpose.

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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.

I don't mind the BB Code

Submitted by Night Twister on Mon, 2008-05-12 19:51.

but if I cross-post, I have to change it for one or the other.

Oh well, there are greater tragedies in life.

"After two years in Washington, I often long for the realism and sincerity of Hollywood." -Fred Dalton Thompson

Just use HTML

Submitted by Joliphant on Mon, 2008-05-12 20:24.

The only is manually putting in the < BR >'s

I just post at redstate first then copy it here. Then I put a < BR > into the clipboard and just paste as needed.
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Magna est veritas, et praevalet.

Maybe I should install here what we did for RS 3

Submitted by Neil Stevens on Tue, 2008-05-13 19:51.

I could add Markdown + an html corrector as an option.
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If you're seeing shades of gray, it's because you're not looking close enough to see the black and white dots.

It would make things simpler

Submitted by simpson316 on Tue, 2008-05-13 20:18.

and a lot harder for us to screw up the whole page's HTML (less a problem here I've noticed).

Fighting for conservatism one day at a time.

I'm not a fan of the RS3.0 look.

Submitted by Night Twister on Tue, 2008-05-13 21:28.

"After two years in Washington, I often long for the realism and sincerity of Hollywood." -Fred Dalton Thompson

You're not the only one...

Submitted by Steven Foley on Wed, 2008-05-14 07:43.

...Some others have expressed the same feeling I'm not the biggest fan neither is GC

After the switch over we may get an influx from other RSers

If the Troll swarms keep up that may happen sooner

Submitted by Joliphant on Sat, 2008-05-17 19:30.

Rather than later.
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Magna est veritas, et praevalet.

OK by me

Submitted by Steven Foley on Sat, 2008-05-17 19:37.

Btw - look up at the top menu see anything??? :0)

LOL I never realized there was a menu up there

Submitted by Joliphant on Sun, 2008-05-18 06:49.

Is it new ?

Oh BTW is the Hinzsight report unhacked yet ?
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Magna est veritas, et praevalet.

Yes...

Submitted by Steven Foley on Sun, 2008-05-18 07:10.

...and now a part of the TMR newtwork

Jeff's working on it

Submitted by Neil Stevens on Sun, 2008-05-18 07:17.

We're going to launch with a redesigned header, but mostly the same look, because we need to get the thing out the door.

But Jeff's working with me on enhancing the layout. Brighter background, less wasted space, better boxes on the right side.
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If you're seeing shades of gray, it's because you're not looking close enough to see the black and white dots.

Don't underestimate the POWER of the Dark Side

Submitted by aceintx on Tue, 2008-05-13 09:49.

Glad to see you here BR

CFR, Amnesty, Spending, Corruption,
Earmarks, Socialized Medicine, Global Cap & Trade:
”Your Silence Is Your Consent!”

It was Adam and a couple of half-wit wonders

Submitted by David Hinz on Tue, 2008-05-13 15:42.

that drove me out of there -- and I WILL NOT be back until after the election! I look forward to the next four years -- probably about every week -- posting an "I TOLD YOU SO!" diary.

I await those posts with baited breath :-)

Submitted by Jaded on Tue, 2008-05-13 17:14.

Freedom of Religion not Freedom from Religion

FWIW David

Submitted by simpson316 on Tue, 2008-05-13 17:43.

Adam has been noticeably absent the last few days.

Fighting for conservatism one day at a time.

I noticed that too...I figure he's woking for McCain somewhere?

Submitted by aceintx on Tue, 2008-05-13 17:51.

CFR, Amnesty, Spending, Corruption,
Earmarks, Socialized Medicine, Global Cap & Trade:
”Your Silence Is Your Consent!”

Actually I think it had more to do

Submitted by simpson316 on Tue, 2008-05-13 18:08.

with Erick's public proclamation that he would openly rail against McCain on the front page if he gets out of line. Adam responded kind of hurt about that one. I think that was the last I saw of him.

Fighting for conservatism one day at a time.

He has been absent since the whole smackdown by

Submitted by Jaded on Tue, 2008-05-13 17:55.

BR on McCain because I specifically asked him to respond to the anger by those who had only days before supported McCain wholeheartedly....no answer and I have not seen him since then....I am going to guess it becomes harder and harder to defend McCain.....really all you can say is "he's better than the alternative"....not much cheerleading in that statement.

Freedom of Religion not Freedom from Religion

I'm also thinking that maybe someone at RS

Submitted by janis on Tue, 2008-05-13 18:01.

told him that his behaviour was hurting things more than it was helping. Look how many of us decamped already.

now that is compelling because it's true he was hurting

Submitted by Jaded on Tue, 2008-05-13 18:05.

the site....he really was like an insolent little child and I called him on it many times....he just could not help himself and show a conservative trait ie: laying back on the McCain posts that took him to the woodshed....he didn't have to be anal but he was....very unattractive trait.

Freedom of Religion not Freedom from Religion

It wasn't just Adam...

Submitted by aceintx on Tue, 2008-05-13 21:12.

It wasn't just Adam...Steve LA could be pretty childish with his constant "I am a moderator and I will Ban you" posts.

He came off as a Braggart and I had more than one run in with him!

CFR, Amnesty, Spending, Corruption,
Earmarks, Socialized Medicine, Global Cap & Trade:
”Your Silence Is Your Consent!”

YOU must be kidding?!

Submitted by David Hinz on Sat, 2008-05-17 19:59.

they made LA Steve a moderator? What, flyerhawk wasn't available?

Lol...;0) n/t

Submitted by Steven Foley on Sat, 2008-05-17 20:05.

Yeah...he threatened to ban me a couple times...

Submitted by aceintx on Sat, 2008-05-17 22:42.

He'd throw the fact that he's a moderator in your face like that automatically made him right or something...very annoying!

I think someone has pulled the reigns in over there though because it looks like they've made moe the hatchet man and had the rest cool it. I haven't seen any ban threats from anyone lately...Moe usually shows up and just delivers the Coupe de grace on the trolls!

CFR, Amnesty, Spending, Corruption,
Earmarks, Socialized Medicine, Global Cap & Trade:
”Your Silence Is Your Consent!”

SteveLA is NOT an RS Moderator (nt)

Submitted by Neil Stevens on Sun, 2008-05-18 05:26.

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If you're seeing shades of gray, it's because you're not looking close enough to see the black and white dots.

In which I'm reminded why RedState annoys me (Updated, with commentary).

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