Introducing: The Market Report (TMR on TMR!) Open Thread- for Financial Stuff Only

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I will post a graph or image for the day related to capital markets, and add content on it throughout the day as the spirit moves. You can comment on that or post whatever you want concerning the world of money.

I will begin with this graph of the Dow Jones Industrial Index at the onset of the Great Depression, as Depression imagery seems to have seized hold of the chattering classes.

The main point of this graph is to illustrate that the slide into the Great Depression took two YEARS. The popular mythology is that the crash of Oct 29 1929 caused the terrible symptoms of the Depression by November 1. The 4th quarter of 1929 was simply a bear market following the frothy, speculative market of the late 1920's. It was a severe correction, but no one anticipated what was to follow. If they did, the market could never have produced a return of 15% in the first quarter of 1930.

The Depression was the perfect storm. Bad decisions and late decisions by governments across the industrialized world contributed to an accelerating loss of confidence that did not reach bottom until 1931.

Variety's famous headline on the October 1929 crash

The world is not going to end now just because we went through a stressed credit market and bear market in Sep-Oct 2008. The powers-that-be have to work hard to create another depression. The tools- protectionism and tight money. There is no sign of that. Yet.

Update

The graph shows that the recover of 1Q 1930 was undone by the 21% decline of the following quarter. Not coincidentally, on June 17, 1930 Congress passed the now infamous Hoot-Smawley tariff, which raised import duties sharply. Other countries reacted with a wave of retaliatory tariffs, launching an all-out trade war.

Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act

Congress at work- Represenative W.C. Hawley (left)

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Knight_of_the_Mind's picture
I get frustrated over people who hype the panic. Roubini is totally at it again. It's almost like he cheerleads for other people to lose their shirts! Detestable. How about them COWBOYS!!!
DocJ's picture

... are that:
1) Nobody has any freaking clue what's going on - other than to use the word "panic" a whole lot, and
2) We're nowhere near bottom, yet.

I'm thinking of adding any and all financial related sites to my "block" filter for the time being.

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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.

streetwise's picture

Here I agree with the esteemed blackhedd of RS, who undoubtedly would find a more elegant way to put it. :>)

David Hinz's picture

is that it goes up and it goes down. When it goes up too fast -- a correction happens. When it goes down too fast -- panic sets in, and then buying opportunities occur. Right now I have a significant amount of my 401k in money market (its a long story) I am just about ready to move almost all of that to Prime Cap because the market looks to me to be close to the bottom.

DocJ's picture

I'm thinking once the Dow crosses the 8000 threshold (almost got there this morning, might get there again) and/or the NASDAQ gets into the 1400's (not really all that close, yet) it's time to start moving my 401k out of bond funds and back into equity funds. Actually, I may do that after the close today regardless of where the close actually lands.

Why did I move out of equity funds a month ago? I mean yeah, I know I'm supposed to be "looking long term" and all, but having taken a huge beating in 1991 (when I could afford it) and again in 2000 (when I couldn't, really) I decided I was going to sit this one out.

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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.

Steve Foley's picture

...I think this is a great new feature!

Job well done!

Brian Simpson's picture

that I don’t have any money invested in the stock market.

Lucky me I guess.


I think I can say, and say with pride, that we have legislatures that bring higher prices than any in the world. ~ Mark Twain

streetwise's picture

clawing back to positive territory, and jumping down and up all day.

Whew!

streetwise's picture

The time-honored pattern of energy shortages and price increases morphing into an economic slowdown and stock market slide - it seems to be proving itself again.

streetwise's picture

who resisted drilling at every opportunity and who left us so vulternable to the oil shock of 2008, who can be blamed for the current hard times.