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In which I give "Kudos!" to Maximos...

By DocJ - Posted on March 13th, 2008
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... because he managed to, briefly, provide commentary to this story in a way that I would have been spectacularly unable - that is, without swearing...

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Shorter Bill Gates: "The failure of the Congress to grant permission to my company to subvert the professional middle classes by importing cheaper labour only means that I have to subvert the professional middle classes by outsourcing their jobs."

Maximos, channeling Gates, continues...
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"But having to outsource their labour looks overly penurious, while importing foreign programmers looks so progressive and cosmopolitan. So can we please shaft the American people my way?"

Globalization: recreating the sociology and socio-economic stratification of the Third World in the First World, courtesy of the plutocracy and its running dogs.

More on this latest journey into public policy from the World's Richest Sentient Being here, here, here, here, here, and from the Freepers here.

As for me, it's interesting to note that I find myself agreeing with Patrick J. Buchanan more and more every day.

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I think you guys are completely wrong
Submitted by Neil Stevens on Thu, 2008-03-13 10:48.

The H1-B is not a free for all. You only get to bring in smart people.

I think making it hard for smart people to come here and not live over there is like shooting ourselves in the head. It's practically giving away innovation and success to other countries that we could have had.

We need to expand the H1-B visa program, and simultaneously loosen the restrictions on the visa holders to change jobs in our economy, so that the labor market isn't disrupted.
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The Americans end-up unemployed either way, Neil.
Submitted by DocJ on Thu, 2008-03-13 13:21.

Either we import-in cheaper "smart people" or Bill Gates ships the jobs over seas. That's pretty much the point Gates is trying to make, right?

Or are you suggesting that American programmers should just accept H1-B visa level wages or move to India in order to keep their jobs? And how does that approach to wage management benefit anyone domestically in the long run if applied on a macro-scale?

And so we end-up with Airbus building our air refueling tankers for us. I don't really see that as progress, but I suppose YMMV.

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It's not a zero sum game
Submitted by Neil Stevens on Thu, 2008-03-13 18:52.

The goal is to grow our pie, and more smart people can help do that.
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I neither said, nor implied, it was.
Submitted by DocJ on Fri, 2008-03-14 02:11.

Seriously Neil, these are not rocket-scientists - as in, the small handful of people with truly unique skills that are very hard to find domestically - that Gates is talking about importing. Visual Basic simply isn't that hard a skill to acquire.

I'm all for importing the truly unique "smart people" who can help grow our own pie. The folks Gates is importing ain't them.

Finally, Gates' suggestion that what we really need to do is to have the same people whose jobs are being outsourced pony-up more money to the failing public school monopoly in hopes they'll turn-out more math and science geeks (so they can, what, be underpaid or outsourced?) when at the same time he's whining about not having enough serfs (the equivalent of a current H1-B visa holder) to do his Bachelors' Degree level work is, well, let's just say it's not exactly great PR and leave it at that.

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