Jedediah Tucker Ward: It’s not hypothetical to Dr. Pavel, he wrote it
Michael Grazier:So he says.
Jedediah Tucker Ward:So he says under oath
Class Action 1991
PM James Hacker: (On Phone): No, no, leave me out of it. A routine visit. (Listening) All right – a routine surprise visit. (Listening) Well, say they were invited earlier, but the NATO exercise got in the way. Now they’re not needed, they’re going anyway. (Listening) All right. Nobody knows it’s not true. Press statements aren’t delivered under oath.
Yes Prime Minister A victor for Democracy 1986
Yesterday the White House apparently learning nothing from the precedent of sending Susan Rice on every cable network decided to send Dan Pfeiffer to every single Sunday Show State of the Union on CNN, Face the Nation on CBS, This week on NBC, Fox News Sunday and Meet the Press on NBC.
Pfeiffer’s line was pretty much the same all over, Fox & CBS gave him the hardest time, Not surprisingly David Gregory on NBC gave him the easiest time but hard or easy the story was essentially the same. Nothing to see here, of course the IRS stuff was wrong, Republicans lying on Benghazi blah blah blah …
There is a lot of talk online about what was said as Jazz Shaw put it:
Man, I wouldn’t want to be Dan Pfeiffer today. That’s got to be a really ugly job and leave him with ashes in his mouth pedaling this crap.
— Jazz Shaw (@JazzShaw) May 19, 2013
I disagree, in this economy plenty of people would love to get Pfeiffer or Jay Carney’s paycheck to say what they’ve been told to say for Obama but what they say means nothing for one simple reason.
Not a word of it was under oath.
— Peter Ingemi (@DaTechGuyblog) May 19, 2013
Susan Rice, Jay Carney, Dan Pfeiffer et/al can say all they want to the press to the media and to the American people but it’s all about propaganda and frankly not worth the time to bother to make fun of it.
But if administration in general & Dan Pfeiffer in particular want me to take him seriously there is a simple way to do it:
— Peter Ingemi (@DaTechGuyblog) May 19, 2013
There is a huge difference between risking the scorn of reporters, republicans and advocates on twitter and risking jail time for perjury by testifying falsely before congress.
I suspect there are going to be many weeks of hearing on this scandal with people from the Cincinnati office, the White House and many more people going before the house under oath. I’m sure the congress would be happy to save a spot for Mr. Pfeiffer if he is willing to make the time.
What will it be?
Update: I should have also mentioned the Test for the media that I blogged before. Bob Schieffer passed it:
Bob Schieffer was born in 1937, he was working for the Fort Worth Star-Telegram the day JFK was shot, and he’s not likely to be impressed by a 37-year-old “senior advisor.” And when it came to Benghazi, Schieffer didn’t let Pfeiffer bulldoze him:
The bottom line is what [Susan Rice] told the American people [Sept. 16] bore no resemblance to what had happened on the ground in an incident where four Americans were killed. . . .
[T]hat was just PR, that was just a PR plan to send out somebody who didn’t know anything about what had happened. Why did you do that? Why didn’t the Secretary of State come and tell us what they knew and if you knew nothing say we don’t know yet? Why didn’t White House Chief of Staff come out? I mean I would, and I mean this is no disrespect to you, why are you here today? Why isn’t the White House Chief of Staff here to tell us what happened?
At his age Pfeiffer might not mind selling his credibility for his higher-ups, it might even be a good career move long-term but Schieffer is 76 years old and his credibility is the most valuable asset he has.
Tonight’s final presidential debate will focus solely on foreign policy. Moderator Bob Schieffer announced that the topics will be: “America’s Role in the World,” “Our Longest War—Afghanistan and Pakistan,” “Red Lines—Israel and Iran,” “The Changing Middle East and the New Face of Terrorism,” and “The Rise of China and Tomorrow’s World.” Heritage’s foreign policy experts have written a series of tipsheets for prepping on each of these issues, featured on our Debate 2012 page and linked below.
Join us tonight at 9 p.m. ET to watch the debate live on the Debate 2012 page. In addition to the live stream, our experts will be live blogging, and you can join in the conversation on Twitter.
Our experts have submitted five questions they consider vital to the foreign policy debate:
- Given that the Taliban movement still poses a threat to the futures of both Afghanistan and Pakistan, how do you plan to ensure stability in the region and prevent either country from serving as a base for international terrorists intent on attacking the U.S.?
- Over the last several years, the Chinese have become increasingly aggressive in pressing territorial claims against their neighbors, threatening to upend peace, security, and the free flow of commerce in the region. What policies will your Administration undertake in the first year to make clear to this new Chinese leadership that the U.S. will remain committed to its friends and treaty allies in the western Pacific?
- The U.S. is not the world’s policeman, but it is a leader in world affairs. Can we maintain our influence and protect our vital national interests around the world (such as the “pivot to Asia” that the Administration has announced) if defense cuts continue? Do these cuts encourage adversaries and extremists (as in Libya) to test U.S. resolve?
- In the months since Osama bin Laden was killed, al-Qaeda franchises in Iraq, Yemen, Syria, and North Africa have grown stronger and continue to pose a significant threat to Americans. Yet the U.S. appears to be stuck in a “whack-a-mole” tape loop. How should U.S. counterterrorism policy be changed to effectively counter this evolving threat?
- Although sanctions have been ratcheted up against Iran, a new study by the Congressional Research Service has concluded that sanctions have not succeeded in accomplishing their principal objective “to compel Iran to verifiably confine its nuclear program to purely peaceful uses.” Tehran has accelerated its enrichment of uranium and is closer than ever to a nuclear weapon. Can sanctions alone stop these trends? What else should the U.S. do to end Iran’s nuclear defiance?
Debate Prep: The Right Answers on China by Dean Cheng and Derek Scissors, PhD
Debate Prep: The Changing Middle East and the New Face of Terrorism by Morgan Lorraine Roach and James Phillips
Debate Prep: Red Lines for Israel and Iran by James Phillips
Debate Prep: Our Longest War—Afghanistan and Pakistan by Lisa Curtis
There was a great example of how you turn one question into a deceiving headline.
On Face the Nation, Bob Schieffer asked Newt Gingrich about his statements concerning judges and the power of congress over them. Gingrich expanded on it noting that a judge giving a verdict beyond outragious can be subpoenaed to explain his decision,
Schieffer pressed on “what if he doesn’t answer such a subpoena and Gingrich correctly notes the capital police can compel the presence of one who ignores such a subpoena.
Presto: instant phony headline at the hill:
Gingrich: Congress can send Capitol Police to arrest rogue judges
GOP presidential frontrunner Newt Gingrich said Congress has the power to dispatch the Capitol Police or U.S. Marshals to apprehend a federal judge who renders a decision lawmakers broadly oppose.
It is only after the lead that the writer Bolton notes he was talking not about sending police for a decision, but for defying a federal subpoena.
Ah Journo-lism means never having to say what side you’re on, expect in secret.
Of course some bias by the media is just plain funny as the new editor notices:
Apparently in Mr. Blow’s world, our society is ‘doomed,’ in part, because people don’t recognize the danger inherent in a system that results in 50% of households having incomes below the median average.
You see, it’s all about the ‘facts,’ and if you don’t accept the ‘facts,’ you are a ‘denier.’
If it wasn’t so sad, it would be funny.
Update: A Google search for the phrase “Census shows 1 in 2 people are poor or low-income” — the title of the AP story on the ludicrous ‘findings’ from the US Census Bureau showing that 50% of all US households earn less than the US median income — yields over 140,000 results.
Good think journalists are so well educated.
Speaking of Gingrich there is a great Youtube video from 2002 with him and the late Chris Hitchens talking the war on terror. It’s well worth your time.
And one more Hitchens story this one from William Jacobson:
I had a long conversation with Hitch in April 2010, a few weeks before he was diagnosed with cancer. My friend Steven and I waited for him outside of the Kimmel Center at NYU after he participated on a panel. He came out, armed with a double Johnnie Walker Black and a bottle of Evian. There were only four people waiting to talk to him and it was pretty late in the evening, but he stayed for about an hour to talk with us. He was just as polished in a casual conversation with college sophomores as he was on stage defending a wildly unpopular war or in his weekly column. Beyond that, though, he didn’t seem bothered by our conversation. In fact, he engaged with us; asking follow-up questions and clarifications. I rarely get that sense of genuine interest from anyone, including my professors.
Most people will probably attribute Hitch’s success to his intellect. That’s fair, but I think it’s also insufficient. There are plenty of people who are smarter than Hitchens but remain less devoted to their work. The element that drove Hitchens the top was his pursuit of the truth. Nothing else can explain his prodigious output, willingness to engage with his critics, political conversions, & his late-night conversations with college kids.
The willingness to engage those who disagreed with him was always one of Hitchens finest qualities.
Vaclav Havel has died. He was one of the great voices for freedom in both the soviet and the post-soviet world.
Havel will likely not get the Kudos that other have, but then again he also was not afraid to go after Cuba as Babalu blog remembers
Havel was a friend of Cubans and Cuban-Americans who sought to restore freedom and democracy to their homeland since 1959. In a speech in 2002, he indicated “”I want to express my solidarity to all those who struggle for a free life in Cuba.” In 2006, he stated that “I cannot go to Cuba to relax on the beach and keep my eyes shut, while dozens of political prisoners are behind bars there.” His words should be required reading to Americans who want to travel to Cuba to dance cha-cha and drink mojitos in Havana nightclubs, while ignoring the plight of daily life for average Cubans.
Many in the press will not abide that.
On the other end of hte coin Kim Jong Il apparently died Saturday. Unfortunately his successor Kim Jong Un seems to be more of the same. Unless the generals decide to knock him off things aren’t going to change, and maybe not even then.
Illinois was one of the few states to go blue last time around and their decision to continue to raise taxes has had the expected result:
Mr. Wooters has another five years before he can retire, but he’s advising his kids to leave the state after college. He’s also talked with his dad about closing their shop because it costs too much to run a business in Illinois these days. Plus, “the customers are leaving town.”
Now two downstate Republican lawmakers think that they’ve found a solution for Mr. Wooters and other disgruntled Illinoisans who want to escape but can’t: Cut off the pesky tail that’s wagging the dog—separate Chicago from the rest of the state.
It never ceases to amaze me that people expect a different result from this kind of decision
And apparently rich democrats in Virginia are getting angry at being “used as a piggybank’ by the Virginia Assembly.
Reason asks “What ever happened to making the rich pay their fair share.” Glenn Reynolds answers “They mean those other rich people”
As of Sunday the last US troops have left Iraq. The news media focused on the cost, on the causalities and the time, none of the successes from the removal of one of the most bloodthirsty dictators and his family, the establishment of one of the most honest elections in the in the Arab world and an incredible amount of causalities among our enemies including the drawing of Al Qaeda members from all over the world to Iraq so we can kill them.
If this war had started under a democratic president all of these points would have been made but this war began under George W Bush so the only good thing about it is its ending.
It was a mixed day for those who fear Tim Tebow. Fumbles and penalties doomed Denver after a strong start as the patriots offense simply rolled forward. Defeating them 41-23.
But at the same time the Oakland Raiders not only gave up two last minute touchdowns to Detroit, but had the potential game winning field goal blocked losing to the Lions 28-27 keeping Denver in first place by game with two left to play and since Oakland and San Diego with two weeks to go to the season and owning the tie breaker. Denver is in the catbird seat to clinch a playoff spot
God doesn’t always give you want you want, but usually give you what you need.
Plus it’s nice to see Detroit get a break, after the decade they’ve had they have one coming.
I’ve started a new series on my blog called: Da Saturday diners. This week I visited a place in Lancaster Massachusetts called Michael’s Bridge diner. The food was pretty good but if you are a member of PETA you might have a heart attack when seeing things like this:
That alone is reason to go.
In closing Zilla of the Resistance had this to say concerning a post a bit ago about conservative bloggers needing support:
Christmas is just around the corner, why not spread some joy by hitting a few of the tip jars of your favorite bloggers? I an guarantee you that it will be welcomed and appreciated! And if you can spare anything at all, please help me to stay avoid being silenced by hitting my tip jar. Thank you for reading, and I wish you all a very Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, and a very Happy New Year.
Zilla is a friend and if you could help her stay afloat, I’d really appreciate it.
See you just before Christmas.
CBS reporter Bob Schieffer decided to ask Nancy Pelosi the tough questions and cornered her on her Congress’s record on the economy. How did she react? Let’s just say you could stamp ‘hypocrite’ on her forehead after this.
“We’re talking in kind of a different way, when unemployment went to 5% under George Bush. What you said then, that Americans are struggling with skyrocketing energy prices, gas was only $3 a gas then, and you say this morning this is January 4th, 2008, this morning’s job report confirms what most Americans already knew. President Bush’s economic policies have failed our country’s middle class. I mean, aren’t Republicans entitled to say, you know, if gas was $3 and unemployment was 5% and the President has failed the American people, don’t they have a right to say that this President has failed the American people?” Schieffer asked (emphasis ours).
“Well, if you want to go into the past, we can talk about the past all you want,” she said before adding that Americans are looking to the future.
Unfortunately, this comes from a woman and an administration that has defined their entire time in office by the actions and ‘failures’ of the Bush administration – refusing to take responsibility for any economic turmoil.
“You said you were going to create jobs with healthcare,” Glenn yelled.
Stu pointed out that they failed to keep unemployment below 8%.
“ She will be remembered as one of the greatest, most powerful Speakers of the House the United States has ever had. She got it done. I don’t care how bad you are. She got it done,” Glenn said in reference to healthcare.
Governor Christie on CBS’s Face the Nation with Bob Schieffer on Sunday, February 27, 2011.
BOB SCHIEFFER: Well, now to the protests, back home protests of a very different kind. These are peaceful protests in Madison, Wisconsin, by union members. That demonstration is moving into its thirteenth day. Yesterday’s turnout of seventy thousand was the largest yet. And yesterday, union workers across the country turned out to support them, these demonstrations over the Wisconsin governor’s plan to reduce spending by ending the collective bargaining rights of teachers and many other public service employees.
Well Governor Christie, you took on the– the public service unions in New Jersey. But you didn’t talk about ending collective bargaining rights. Do you think Governor Walker out there in Wisconsin has gone too far?
GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE (R-New Jersey): Bob, let me tell you what– what went on in New Jersey. My predecessor Governor Corzine stood on the front steps of the Capitol at a public sector union rally and said, “I’ll fight to get you a good contract.” And I thought to myself watching that, who’s he fighting with? Once he says that the fights over. What I believe in is true adversarial collective bargaining. And so, every state is different. I’m not going to micromanage Wisconsin from Trenton, New Jersey. I know Scott Walker. I like him. And I trust him. And I think he believe he’s doing what’s in the best interest of Wisconsin, the same way I’m going to do what I think needs to be done for New Jersey, which is, to reform the pension system and roll
back health benefits for public sector workers, to put them more in line with the rest of the population in New Jersey, to put us on a long-term path to fiscal stability.
BOB SCHIEFFER: Well, but what about this idea? Do they have a right to collective bargaining?
GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE: Now listen. All these rights are legislatively created. They didn’t come down from tablets at the top of a mountain. And so, political things change and go back and forth. And every state is going to make their own determination on that. Wisconsin is in the middle of making that determination. As you know, Bob, there are plenty of states in America where that right doesn’t exist. And so, each state has to make their own determination on that.
BOB SCHIEFFER: Well, is that good or bad for New Jersey? Do you think they ought to have the right in New Jersey to collective bargaining?
GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE: What I’ve said in New Jersey is, as long as it’s fair and reasonable collective bargaining. You know, we can’t have what we’ve had before. You know, Bob, public sector workers, state workers in New Jersey, this past year, were working under a contract from my predecessor Jon Corzine, got seven percent salary increases in a zero percent inflation world. I don’t think the people who are paying the bills think that’s the result of fair adversarial collective bargaining. They want someone in the room representing the taxpayers. And that’s what I’ll be this June, when that contract expires.
BOB SCHIEFFER: Do you see a danger here that this is turning into some kind of may be not a danger, may be it’s something you would encourage, turning into some kind of national political war, where you have Democrats and the unions on one side and Republicans on the other?
GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE: I– I don’t think it is. I think again, there are so many states that don’t have collective bargaining and there are a lot of states are not having this conflict right now. And so, I think this is really a state-by-state issue. There’s a lot of interest in this right now because of the emotion that’s going on in Wisconsin–strong stand by Governor Walker and a
strong stand by the people on the other side. It’ll be resolved politically in the state legislature in Wisconsin. So, I don’t see it that way. Obviously, it has national interest in story, Bob, but we’ve been taking on the unions in New Jersey for the last year and that’s gotten a lot of attention too. So everybody is doing it their own way.
BOB SCHIEFFER: Let me ask you this. You really came on hard against the teachers’ union. I think everybody in this country on all sides of all this thinks we need education reform that we’ve got to do something to make our educational system better. Do you worry that the stance you have taken has somehow demonized teachers and– and will raise questions in young people’s minds as to whether they want to go into the profession?
GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE: No, I don’t. In fact, I did quite the opposite. Listen, I think that the teachers in New Jersey, and there’s thousands and thousands of great ones deserve a union as good as they are and they don’t have it. And, I disagree with the premise of your question which is that everybody agrees there should be education reform. It’s everybody, but the teachers union who believes that everything is fine. If you listen to them in New Jersey, they’ll tell you everything is fine. I mean it’s great. It’s great except for the hundred and four thousand kids in New Jersey that are struck in– stuck in two hundred chronically-failing schools. I mean, you know just because their zip code is in a poor urban center doesn’t mean we should be fighting to change the system that’s failing them. So, no. What I’m trying to do is have a merit-based system for teachers, so that great ones get rewarded and paid more and that the really great ones want to stay in the profession, not only because they love it but because they’re rewarded financially for it. The union, Bob, they protect the worse of the worst. That’s what there for, they make it impossible to fire bad teachers and it’s ruining our education system.
BOB SCHIEFFER: What do you think of President Obama’s plans to reform education at the federal level by his– you know let’s reward good teachers. His, you know, the– the things that Secretary Duncan has outlined. Are– are you– generally think he’s on the right track?
GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE: I do. And– and I’ve said that publicly. I think the President has shown some real courage, especially for a Democrat who’s been dependent upon the teachers union nationally for political support to come out for merit pay and race to the top and some of the things he’s done to push reform, I think the President has been on the right track. I’m little concerned about comments I heard yesterday from Secretary Duncan that seemed to be, you know blowing the hornet for treat on that a little bit. And I– I hope that that’s not an election year ploy for them to cozy back up to the NEA and the ATF, as the President prepares for reelection. But in general, I think the President has been very strong on this. And that’s why you see Republicans agreeing with him on it.
BOB SCHIEFFER: You have a reputation as a straight talker I think. Do you believe that the budgetary problems across this country can be resolved without raising taxes?
GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE: Well, let’s take New Jersey, for instance, Bob. We raised taxes and fees a hundred and fifteen times in the last eight years. And we still have one of the worst budget problems in America. And so, I think unless you deal with the underlying structural expense problems and we’ve been dealing with them in New Jersey, you– there’s no amount of taxation is ever going to keep up with the amount of spending increase that we have. And so, my view is we’ve already done things on the tax side in New Jersey. We have one of the highest top marginal income tax rates one of the highest sales tax rates, one of the highest corporate business tax rates. What we need to get to now is cutting back the size and scope of
government and have those two things meet. For instance, this year in my budget, while we still reduce spending, I added two hundred and fifty million dollars to K-12 education. We’re going to do things that make sense. But we’re not going to continue the spending spree and we’re certainly not just going back to raising more and more taxes. The people in New Jersey have had enough of that. Hundred and fifteen times in eight years, I think they’d given it the office, Bob.
BOB SCHIEFFER: You know there are some groups, anti-tax groups that ask people, especially people who are running for the Republican nomination for president to take a pledge not to raise taxes. I know you’re not running. I know what you’ve said about running. But it’s– would you do that? Would you ever take a pledge not to raise taxes?
GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE: Well, listen. If I were running, I guess I’d have to make that decision. But at the end of the day I think what matters much more is what you do and not anything that you sign or– or that you say. You have to prove and do it. And I think the reason why people in New Jersey are responding to what we’re doing is I’m actually doing in the job,
Bob, what I said I would do. I said if there were income tax increases I would veto them. I did and my veto was sustained. I said I would cut spending in the size of government. We’ve now
cut spending two years in a row–not projected spending, real spending. And we’re taking on the things that they’re not taking on at the federal level–pension benefits and health care. And we’re doing those two things to cut back the cost of that.
BOB SCHIEFFER: One of the things that you have spoken out on is something that a lot of people in politics have not. Here’s what you said at the American Enterprise Institute this week
GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE (February 16): You’re going to have to raise the retirement age for Social Security. Oh, I just said it and I’m still standing here. I did not vaporize into the carpeting and I said it.
BOB SCHIEFFER: All right. You said it.
GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE: I did.
BOB SCHIEFFER: Should– should other people be saying that?
GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE: Of course, I mean, listen, you know and I know that the overall majority has a problem on the federal level comes down to three programs–Social Security,
Medicare and Medicaid. And unless we go about tackling those three issues, all the rest of the things that the President is talking about and others on Capitol Hill are talking about are minor league issues. Not saying they’re not important. Not saying they’re not, you know, interesting and– and– and I might like some of them. But if you don’t deal with those three, those three are
going to eat up everything else. And so, we’ve to start dealing with it. And I think the people of the United States are– are ready for a frank, adult conversation about it. I’ve seen that in New
Jersey. I’ve done a lot of things that people say I don’t like but I’m glad you’re taking it on because you have to, because we know we’re in trouble. And so, my view on it and the reason I came down and gave that speech was to say to people stop being afraid and stop telling– selling the people of America short. They’re smart. They know we have to do this.
BOB SCHIEFFER: All right. Governor, let’s take a break here. And we’ll come back and talk about this and some other things, including the government shutdown that may be coming in
this country in– in– in Washington. Back in a minute.
BOB SCHIEFFER: And we’re back now with Governor Christie. Governor, Congress is back this week and the first thing they’ve got to tackle is some sort of emergency stopgap legislation to
keep the con– government from shutting down. But I know there are a lot of people in your party, especially on the Tea Party side, who say maybe just let the government shut down. Let’s do not compromise on– on spending. Do you think it would be a good idea to shut the government down?
GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE: I don’t, unless that’s the only way to forward your principles. And I think they’re going to be able to find a way to find compromise that protects the principles
that, you know the folks in my party got elected on and the ones that are important to Democrats. I mean their job is to solve these problems and not just to stand in a corner and hold your breath. So– and I say that about both sides. So let’s get together. They’ve got a week to figure it out. Let’s get in the room and figure it out. I was a little surprised they took the last week off, to tell you the truth, given that this was looming. Why? I– I think most Americans wanted to know why they weren’t go to work, but they’re getting back to work tomorrow. So let’s get back to work and let’s get it solved.
BOB SCHIEFFER: Well, what do you say to the Tea Party folks who say, look, I mean, it– it’s our way or no way. We have simply got to stop this and if it takes shutting down the government, shut it down.
GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE: Well, those are two different things, right? I mean, I think that you can accomplish the goals of downsizing government, of cutting spending, and you can do it in a way that I think Democrats will go along with you on. I mean you have to have some fights. And that’s fine. As you know, I’m not, you know averse to a fight. But I think also you just have to get in a room and start working it out with people. That’s what we’ve done in New Jersey, Bob. Now I have a democratic legislature. And the things that I’ve accomplished with cutting
spending and putting a cap on property taxes, cap on interest arbitration awards, reforming initially for new employees pension and benefits, I’ve done that with a democratic legislature. It means I don’t get every ounce of what I want but we get in a room and we work it out. And that’s what they should do down here.
BOB SCHIEFFER (overlapping): Well–
GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE: The President should lead on that.
BOB SCHIEFFER: Once they get this stopgap measure to keep the government running then they have to take a vote on– on whether to raise the debt ceiling. What’s your view on that?
GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE: My view on it is that it better be in line also with some real long-term commitments to cutting spending. You’ve got to do both. And– and I think it’s a good
moment to force that conversation and they should. And– and I– I just believe that if the President shows leadership on this, he can bring the parties together. That’s what a president’s for.
BOB SCHIEFFER: Let’s talk about– let’s talk about President Obama. What do you think of the job he’s doing?
GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE: Listen, there are some things I like and there some things I don’t like. The spending has been out of control and not as advertised when he ran for
president. And– and that’s very disappointing to me. I’m– I’m not a fan of the health care reform. And I think it’s unnecessarily hamstrung states. And I doubt that it’s constitutional. Now
on the other side, as I said before I like what he’s done on education reform. And I think it’s a Nixon to China kind of moment. You know, we need a democratic president to make these
reforms in education to lead the way. I– I like some of the things he’s had to say in renewable energy because I think we need to find a path to lower our dependence on foreign oil and– and
we can see what’s going on in the Middle East this week. That it can turn things upside down for us. So I like some of the things he’s been doing on that as well. But, you know, overall, I didn’t vote for him. And I doubt I’ll vote for him next time.
BOB SCHIEFFER: A lot of Republicans, you know are giving hints, indications and so forth that they may or may not seek the Republican nomination to run against Barack Obama. You have said in one of the– one of your memorable quotes, I’ve– if I have, I– I’d have to commit suicide to convince people I’m not running. Well, you may or may not walk back from the ledge on that. What– you haven’t been all that kind I guess is what I would say to– to some of the people that do seem to be suggesting they’re going to run. What do you like about the field so far and what don’t you like?
GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE: Well, we don’t have a field yet. First of all, no one has declared. And– and what I’ve said is let’s judge the complete field once they all get in. You know lots of people can flirt with it, Bob. But you know it’s– it’s an enormous decision to make the decision to run for president of the United States and enormous personal commitment. When the team that we’re going to field gets in there, then I’ll make my evaluation of them. And I don’t think I’ve said anything uncharitable about any of them. I’ve said some very nice things about Governor Daniels but I’ve said those things because I really believe that Governor Daniels is speaking about the issues that need to be spoken about and has a track record in Indiana that proves he can actually do it. That doesn’t mean I’d endorse Governor Daniels if he ran. But what it means is, I think those are the things that other people who are considering running should be looking at and talking about, to having an honest conversation with the American people.
BOB SCHIEFFER: Well, what you have said is they’ve got to get out here and talk about these things that are going to be the issues, that you can’t finesse it.
GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE: No, you can’t finesse it. And then– and you have to have unscripted moments. I mean you cannot be blow dried and, you know, poll tested and come out here. That’s not what the American people want. They want somebody who is going to speak straight to them. And they want to ask you questions, so they want unguarded moments. That’s
when they can really judge your character.
BOB SCHIEFFER: Is that– is that aimed at, say, Sarah Palin who seems to talk to people mostly on her website and– and not– and she doesn’t do many interviews?
GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE: Well, I– I think it’s– it’s aimed at all of them. But certainly, when I first made that comment, it was in response to a question about Governor Palin. And I think if she wants to prove she’s ready for this, you got to have to have some unscripted moments. Now she may very well be up to it and if she is, good for her, but I think people want to see that. Very– they’re very much interested in her. So they want to see that about her to make a judgment as to can you trust somebody in the Oval Office who can do that? Unless you do those unscripted moments, I think it’s hard to get the person to pull the lever for you.
BOB SCHIEFFER (overlapping): What– I mean do you think she’s ready?
GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE: Well, listen. She’s got to make that judgment herself. And you know what, Bob, I’ll make my vote in the voting booth privately like every other American.
BOB SCHIEFFER: All right. Let me– let me ask you this. Some of the people on the right have sort of poked fun and made fun of Michelle Obama, because she’s been trying to get people to eat better. I know that you have done dieting. You have worked on your weight and so forth. You described yourself as portly. Do you think– what do you think about this criticism coming
from the right of Michelle Obama, because she’s trying to get people to eat better.
GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE: Well, I think it’s unnecessary. I think it’s a really good goal to encourage kids to eat better. You know, I’ve– I’ve struggled with my weight for thirty years and
it’s a struggle. And if a kid can avoid that in his adult years or her adult years, more power to them. And I think the first lady is speaking out well. I mean, I don’t want the government deciding what you can and what you can’t eat. I still think that’s your choice. But I think Mrs. Obama being out there encouraging people in a positive way to eat well and to exercise and to be healthy, I don’t have a problem with that.
BOB SCHIEFFER: Governor Christie, thank you so much. I hope you’ll come back to see us.
GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE (overlapping): Absolutely, I will.
BOB SCHIEFFER: We enjoyed having you.
GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE: Thank you, Bob.